@terence that is exactly what will happen, and since nobody here mentioned it there are a lot more South Indian cities that tech workers in Seattle or the Bay area come from, not just Bangalore. On the surface, there aren’t any noticeable differences in the economy cabin. I’m from Mumbai and I’ve been living in Seattle for years. The San Francisco to Bangalore route was pushing the limits in terms of distance, while the issue with Johannesburg is that the airport is at a high altitude, greatly limiting takeoff performance on westbound flights. United has received its first Boeing 787-9 with the new interior. To get to Pune is a PITA! (The 737 Max as a great example.). United Airlines will debut its new Boeing 787-10 Dreamliners on its “Premium” transcontinental routes between Newark and California, the carrier revealed Monday morning.. Editorial Note: Opinions expressed here are the author’s alone, not those of any bank, credit card issuer, airlines or hotel chain, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. The mistake you’re making is to count only the traffic terminating in Bangalore. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Breeze Airways Wants To Pay Pilots How Much?! Also, the even-numbered solo seats have just one window, compared to the three dedicated to each odd-numbered solo seat. You said something positive about United! As such, I was able to access some parts typically off-limits to passengers. Gone are the 2-2-2 forward-facing biz seats in favor of Polaris pods arranged in a 1-2-1 configuration with direct aisle access for each seat. Your point makes sense but I don’t think it will move the needle on corporate traffic because the tech people who might choose to relocate out of SF will largely be the senior engineers who work relatively independently whereas the people traveling to Bangalore were largely managers who might have a harder time relocating out of the city. I looked on united.com and don’t see them yet. With the transition from a dated 2-2-2 configuration to one with direct-aisle access at each seat, you’ll be pleased. Does American really expect people to fly from the east such as Atlanta, Miami, or Dallas, backtrack to Seattle and then fly to Bangalore…. United began flying the Dreamliner in 2012, using the long-range and fuel efficiency of the 787-8 and 787-9 to serve intercontinental routes such as Houston to Sydney and San Francisco to Singapore. But, the best part isn’t necessarily the hard product. The airline is both reconfiguring existing -9s and taking delivery of new ones that are rolling off the line with the updated cabin already installed. Though they’re standard coach seats, they’ve got some added storage on the side. A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Please view our advertising policy page for more information. They have to get to a major airport even if they want to fly to Middle East or Europe or Eastwards. Consider Bangalore’s hinterland. Do you think American will still launch Seattle to Bangalore flights? As I understand , American’s Bengaluru flight originates in LAX with the same flight number and without a change of aircraft LAX SEA BLR SEA LAX. The table is closer to the aisle, offering additional privacy from the rest of the cabin. United Airlines has been doing a lot of playing around with plans for its new 787-9 Dreamliners. — From Dallas it’s more or less breakeven (distance-wise) flying via Seattle vs. London So nothing about cutting some weight? Then, I checked out the massive engine, main landing gear and tail section. If traveling solo, I’d do everything in my power to select one of the odd-numbered seats flush with the window. It’s incredibly impressive how global of an airline United has become in the past few years, and in particular that the airline is adding ultra long haul flights even at this time. United Airlines Fleet Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner Details and Pictures. Boeing, Air Lease Corp., Deliver First 787-9 Dreamliner for Air Tahiti Nui. They can avoid that extra changeover. Note: Specifications are listed as standard and may vary slightly. Travel in the Time of COVID: The news, resources, & information you need. But that depends on how many hours of additional flying I’m doing to backtrack such a huge distance. United 787 business class bottom line. What I didn’t initially realize is that modifications would be made to 787-9s in order to make these two new routes work, as they weren’t previously possible. -New Flight to Naples A list with all 787 Dreamliner's operators and routes. -Amsterdam from SFO Together these changes will make the flights possible. — From Atlanta and Chicago it’s significant backtracking to go via Seattle, vs. flying via Europe (and that’s not even accounting for an all around better product if you’re flying internationally the whole way) If I’m flying to MAA I’m not transferring in BLR, even if I live in SF. Personally I’m highly skeptical. A little off topic but speaking of new Polaris seating, has United done anything to accelerate the retrofits of their long haul aircraft during the flying hiatus that is the COVID-19 pandemic? For more travel news and tips, subscribe to TPG’s daily email newsletter. I’m still better off by 4-5 hours and I didn’t have to travel 5 hours by road in India after my 24 hours international journey. And if it’s a software fix that can improve fuel management, can everyone do it on their planes as well? Though there aren’t any doors, the Polaris cabin represents a massive improvement to the business-class experience on these planes. The airline has made changes to when and how it will be deploying the aircraft with changes to its San Francisco – Tokyo route, its Tokyo – Singapore and its Los Angeles – London route. After all, seats are arranged in a standard 3-3-3 configuration. United still operates the archaic 2-2-2 biz class config on their SFO-DEL non stop routes. © 2021 THE POINTS GUY, LLC. As the only U.S. airline to operate all three variants of the Boeing 787, UA has committed to using this wide-body aircraft to open new routes and markets. Until United dedicates the new 787-9s to specific routes, you can choose to sit here for the same price as an Economy Plus seat. Another possibility is that Boeing or the engine manufacturer created additional enhancements over time to improve efficiency that were not available at the time of original purchase of the aircraft and these are now going to be purchased and included in the aircraft. And now, United is debuting the Polaris and Premium Plus cabins on the 787-9 Dreamliner. -2nd daily Frankfurt flight from Newark United now operates all models of the Boeing 787 family. — No airline is ever going to capture 100% of traffic in a local market, given that airlines often charge a premium for nonstop flights, so many would rather connect and save money, fly a better airline, etc. Anyone have any progress to report? The best seats here are in the Row 42, the exit row. If you consider traffic to Seattle from south India (rather than just Bangalore) then it’s quite a lot. This wide-body aircraft are generally used on international long haul routes. It’s much more private than the main cabin. Also to be taken into account is the fact that the economics on the route is going to be even tougher for UA given the distance. Be sure to avoid Row 53 since it’s got missing windows. When terminal 2 opens in Bangalore next year more direct flights to new destinations are on cards. . Hello everyone! With United adding Bangalore as well, I just don’t see where the passengers for American’s flight would come from. All of the India action is not regulated to BOM and DEL. Disclaimer: The responses below are not provided or commissioned by the bank advertiser. As an example, Emirates is my best choice from Seattle, so that’s around 22 hours to Mumbai with a layover in DXB + 3-4 hours to exit baggage & customs (have you seen the lines in BOM when the DXB A380 lands?!?) + 5 hours by car to Pune. The most fuel efficient SFO-BLR route would be the north-south polar route that passes through Communist Chinese airspace. With United now adding service to Bangalore as well, American will face a lot of competition. If you'd like to participate in the discussion, please adhere to our commenting guidelines. Ultimately this route relies on connectivity from the entire west coast, with San Francisco basically being as big as other west coast markets combined. In fact, it’s only increasing with the Premium Plus cabin. Immigration was quick thanks to Global Entry, and we headed to the Polaris Lounge. In March, the airline introduced international routes. As expected for a plane that’d only operated a handful of flights, everything looked and felt brand-new. Posted 11 April 2016 08:30. Now, with American’s new partnership at JetBlue I could see a New York to Bangalore flight, which seems much more logical at this point (though I’m not sure if that’s pushing the limit on American’s 787-9 for the westbound flight). Don’t be surprised to see UA or AA go double daily at some point, since there are many tech cities in the South. My experience flying Premium Plus on the larger 787-10 was underwhelming, but I’d love to give this product another try on the 787-9. It is not the bank advertiser’s responsibility to ensure all posts and/or questions are answered. Furthermore, BLR does not have that many flights into these cities and they’re certainly not timed for connection traffic. All 787-8 unless stated. It isn’t just biz getting a big revamp on the 787-9. However, the big change is the reduction of 49 Economy Plus seats compared to the old 787-9s. This compensation may impact how and where products appear on this site (including, for example, the order in which they appear). He travels about 400,000 miles a year, primarily using miles and points to enhance his first class experiences. Interesting but counter-intuitive that SFO-MEL is a shorter flight than LAX-MEL. A lot of my friends in Seattle mirror this opinion. United is making some modifications to its 787-9s, which will increase engine thrust and improve the fuel management system. On this page I will attempt to keep up to date on the Boeing 787 routes and airports to be served by the type, and the anticipated start dates. CHICAGO - United Airlines zet in de zomer van 2020 een Boeing 787-8 in op de route tussen San Francisco en Amsterdam, zo blijkt uit de timetable van de maatschappij. Pre-Covid I traveled 4x yearly to Pune. Thankfully there’s a large privacy divider in the odd-numbered center seats should you not want to converse with your neighbor. That’s not even accounting for United’s existing presence in India, United’s partnerships with Air India and Vistara, and United’s general strength with tech corporate contracts. There is a reason why BA put its new club world A350 into BLR as one of the first routes. The 787-10 is 18 feet longer than the 787-9 and can carry both more passengers and cargo. Here’s your exclusive first look at @united’s brand-new 787-9 Dreamliner! The first has just 6 rows dedicated to Economy Plus and Preferred seats. The premium economy cabins are pretty standard throughout United’s fleet, so there aren’t many surprises here. If they have that many routes, they could reserve a few aircrafts for ultra long-haul with a more favourable seating for economy folks. I absolutely loved the three different shades of blue on this factory-fresh Dreamliner. @ mike — The planes with new Polaris seats should also have Premium Plus, as far as I know. Both the flights will act as a catchment for all passengers from MAA or HYD or any small towns around the area and around BLR. The 787 has really been a game-changer, with United taking full advantage of it. Why doesn’t every airline do this with all of their planes? October 9, 2018 in Commercial. View Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner seating and specifications on United aircraft using this United Airlines seating chart. Reminder: OMAAT comments are changing soon. Today it gets distributed with exits from almost 8-10 airports in south India that connect Seattle via Middle East or Europe. The main coach cabin spans Rows 42 through 57. TL;DR version: This is a great option for the Seattle market starved for direct connectivity to India. UNITED during the weekend of 08APR16’s schedule update has loaded planned Boeing 787-9 operation between Houston and US West Coast, ... ANA Introduces First Boeing 787-9 on International Route. For those going to NW USA Bangalore Seattle direct flight becomes a good option. We’ve already seen many of the tech companies allow employees to work remotely. The owner of this site is not an investment advisor, financial planner, nor legal or tax professional and articles here are of an opinion and general nature and should not be relied upon for individual circumstances. Polaris, Economy Plus and Economy seating is available. Editorial Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are the author’s alone, not those of any bank, credit card issuer, airlines or hotel chain, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. With the -9 operating some of United’s flagship routes, including its longest from Houston to Sydney, I couldn’t wait to check out the new cabins. Catch the full scoop at the link in bio, A post shared by Zach Griff (@_zachgriff) on Mar 4, 2020 at 9:08am PST. They have to Essentially go to a major airport to fly to USA. Who knew that there was a (mini) staircase on the Dreamliner? Stay connected via social media, or subscribe to our free email newsletter for tips on upgrading your travel and maximizing your miles! -second daily flight to Tokyo from newark Would the 787-9 have enough range to take a more westerly route over Central Asia? But UA is never shy at launching new long haul routes.. they are used to throwing darts at the board and seeing what sticks. There is a possibility that the percentage of SF traffic reduces. If you’re flying as a couple, you may want to sit in Rows 56 or 57, which has two seats on each end. Looking at a mercator projection map will always distort real distances. Find all United Airlines flights, destinations, routes and airports on this interactive airline map. It’ll usually be faster with less layover time not to mention a better on board experience. I’d rather take a 1-stop through dxb or hkg. United Airlines will run domestic US flights of its Boeing 787-9 later this year ahead of the Dreamliner's debut on a new Melbourne-Los Angeles direct service from October 28.. Information about On board WiFi and AC Power. Your email address will not be published. Fortunately, I did just that with an exclusive first look aboard the carrier’s newest jet: N29977. Those traffic numbers are pre-COVID though, no? We may receive compensation when you click on links to those products. Earn 85,000 Membership Reward® points | Terms Apply. A United spokesperson told TPG that some of those 777s will go into Polaris conversion, while some will be used in markets that the airline will upgauge, an industry term for putting more capacity on a route by using larger airplanes. Economy also gets some enhancements, like a new entertainment screen and refreshed seat upholstery. Of course, that’ll never happen! No need to connect, and no worries about missing your flight due to delays). 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